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University does better than last time

World rankings show Liverpool scrambles to 121st place in top 200 list

Published on September 9th 2010.

University does better than last time

WHERE is Liverpool on the world academic stage? The much awaited and influential QS World University Rankings shows the city makes the top-200 list. The University of Liverpool has climbed 16 places, moving to 121 from last year’s QS ranking of 137.

Way ahead of Liverpool, though, is a clutch of rival core cities with much better rankings than Liverpool.

Bristol comes in at 27 (34 last year) and Edinburgh 22 (20). Closer to home, Manchester just makes the top 30, but has slipped from last year’s 26. Cambridge crowns the list, taking number one spot from Harvard, and, as you would expect, UCL, Oxford and Imperial also make the top 10.

Also ahead of Liverpool are Birmingham 59 (66), Sheffield 68 (82), Nottingham 73 (91), Southampton 81 (95) and Leeds 85 (99).

But it could be a lot worse: scraping in at the bottom of the 200 list are Queens University Belfast (197) Reading (185) and Lancaster (181).

The QS rankings assess university research quality, graduate employability, teaching commitment and international commitment.

They are weighted 40% to academic reputation, 10% to employability, 20% to citations, 20% to the staff-student ratio and a further 10% weighting to how international the make-up of the faculty and student body is.

Ben Sowter who is head of research at QS says unlike other rankings systems which rely heavily on statistical indicators of university research, QS also takes into account the most up-to-date views of employers and academics.

He said in a statement: "QS rankings reflect the highly competitive environment of global higher education.

"Given the uncertain economic outlook, it is reassuring for students that the top 200 universities are also, by and large, the most popular universities with employers, suggesting that a world-class degree remains the best path to a great job.”

See www.topuniversities.com.

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10 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Champagne CharlieSeptember 8th 2010.

Good grief BoozeN'lern, you should get out more. In my recent experience students in Mankjester, Leeds and Leicester get every bit as drunk as ours do. Now that they are funded by more open-ended loans they seem to consider the money to be their own, not like the limited grants which came with at least a notional requirement for spending on study essentials.

BoozeN'lernSeptember 8th 2010.

Hardly surprising Liverpool is so far behind when you seen the drunken behavious of students in and around the city. They obviously don't come to Liverpool to 'lern' anything, except 'human biology' and 'social work'. We'll never catch up because of the alcohol-fuelled distractions.

NotGudEnuffSeptember 8th 2010.

Red Eric's praise for Liverpool Uni, being happy with its world ranking, is like Eric Morley telling the Miss World Contestant who came next to last that she did well. She didn't, cos she didn't win. Liverpool should aim to be in the top 100, then top 50, top 25 (overtaking Manchester). We want a passionate battlecry from the stuffy academics saying they'll strive for nothing better than best.

AnonymousSeptember 8th 2010.

I would hate to think that these university places were being wasted on girls who spend every night trying to bag a football player in so-called exclusive bars in the city centre

Ronnie de RamperSeptember 8th 2010.

In 2007, on the same ranking list, Liverpool Uni was 101. It then fell to 133 in 2008, 137 in 2009, and now a small improvement to 121. But it remains outside the 'Premier League' these days, even in the UK if the truth be told. It tends to trade on a fading reputation. That said, it's still a fine Uni but can no longer attract the AAA- or AAB-grade students in most subjects. Same goes for the academics - no longer really top drawer. Still, 121 in the world is no mean feat. Compared with JMU, which barely ranks 121 in Britain, you can see the gulf in class

Student GrantSeptember 8th 2010.

Can Harvard really be THAT good when it admitted and educated the eminent dimwit George Dubya Bush?

MustDoBetterSeptember 8th 2010.

So Manchester is in the Premier League, whilst Liverpool is in one of the lower divisions. Not good enough is it, especially when you read some of the 'lesser' known universities in higher rankings. As my old headmaster would have said....Must Do Better.

Red EricSeptember 8th 2010.

@NotGoodEnuffI didn't say Liverpool Uni should be happy with their position. That suggests that they should accept it and not strive for more. I said that they should be proud to be up there, and it will only get better. That's not saying they should be complacent.The Miss World analogy is interesting, even the losers are still very pretty. The winner is out of most mens league, I wouldn't want Liverpool Uni to be out of the league of most people. But Cambridge Uni it will never be.

Red EricSeptember 8th 2010.

I think Liverpool University should be proud of it's position in the list of universities of the world. There may be other universities in this country with a higher ranking, but on the grand scale of things, Liverpool's position is still very good. Liverpool is still a fantastic city to be a student.In wider perspective, 30 of the worlds best universities are in the UK, the largest share after the USA, which has 50 in the top 200. After that it's Germany and Holland with 12 places each. The rest of the countries only have a handful of places each. Liverpool should be proud of it's position, and it will only get better.Even at position 200 you cannot be scraping the barrel, this is world ranking, with approximately 7800 universities worldwide.

entspanntSeptember 8th 2010.

So what? The education system from kindergarten to PhD is desigend to produce "doers" who fit into the system and to ensure that as few people as possible are capable of thinking, asking questions and seeing the big picture.

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