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Syria debate: who voted what

Esther McVey backs action but Mersey MPs help scupper Government motion

Published on August 30th 2013.

Syria debate: who voted what

 RISING Tory star Esther McVey was the only Merseyside MP to vote in support of the Government's motion authorising the possible use of military force against Syria. 

The Liverpool-born Wirral West MP and Minister for Disabled People, who is the county's only sitting Conservative, was one of the 272 ayes who were defeated by just 13 votes (285 nos) in the packed House of Commons last night. 

Her Congleton counterpart, Fiona Bruce, was one of the few Tory MPs to vote against the party line. 

George HowarthGeorge Howarth, notes of cautionWith the exception of Lib Dem MP for Southport John Pugh, and St Helens Central Labour MP Shaun Woodward, whose names appear on neither the for or against lists, the remaining Merseyside MPs (all Labour) voted against the motion among 224 Labour MPs, 30 Conservatives, nine Liberal Democrats and others. 

They were Joe Benton, Luciana Berger, Angela and Maria Eagle, Louise Ellman, Bill Esterson, Frank Field. George Howarth, Alison McGovern, Steve Rotheram, Stephen Twigg and Dave Watts. 

During the lengthy debate, Knowsley MP Mr Howarth addressed the Commons. He said on balance, he believed forces within the Syrian regime were responsible for this week's shocking gas attacks that prompted the call for action, but sounded several notes of caution. He also questioned the “weight of world opinion”.

It seems to me that whenever there is a crisis of this kind—I have no qualms about saying this—the United Nations fails to live up to its promise," he said.

"What tends to happen is that the United Nations Security Council will pass resolutions—I think it passed 14 on Iraq and weapons of mass destruction before any action was taken—but in the end, whatever the UN does, it tends to fall on the shoulders of coalitions of the willing to enforce its will."

He added: "I am not condemning the United Nations—it is all we have—but we need to have a better way of doing these things in the future. We need to think very carefully as a country about where we fit into each of the coalitions, particularly the one under discussion.”

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16 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

U.S. ClusterbombAugust 30th 2013.

Cracking! But has Miliband woken up at last or was he just having a funny turn? It would be nice if he started doing things rather than going along with the right-wing 'concensus' that everyone paid less than a MP deserves to subsist for a short while before dying in poverty.

AnonymousAugust 31st 2013.

Esther must have sensed some sort of PR publicity opportunity in this, she's never out of the bloody papers and would attend the opening of an envelope.

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AnonymousSeptember 1st 2013.

Best mates with the editor of the Echo, so that's easy enough to arrange. Otherwise an arselicking opportunist (Esther McVey that is)

Paul TheotheroneAugust 31st 2013.

McVey was on television the other week in her capacity as Minister for the Repression and Humiliation of Disabled People spouting a lot of unconvincing circular arguments about how cutting their benefits and driving them into debt, despair and suicide 'helps them back to work'.

AnonymousSeptember 1st 2013.

Labour are dumbasses

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Pop PickerSeptember 2nd 2013.

"Dumbasses"? Isn't that dum 'n' bass, a type of pop music.

Caesar adsum jam forteSeptember 2nd 2013.

'Labour' is singular so your 'are' ought actually to be an 'is'. It is so sad the way lives have been blighted by Tory cuts to education since 1979.

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2013.

Cowardice. Its only syrians getting gassed so sod them lets turn a blind eye. what a principled country we have become.

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2013.

Pls explain why we should be so "principled" that we dash all over the globe sorting out everyone's problems, like the world police?

John BradleySeptember 2nd 2013.

It shows you lack of understanding on the concept of being principled. If by intervening we could reduce the number of deaths then that would be principled, intervening when it would only increase the number of deaths but would make you look big with the shallow people who want to be a bully is the height of unprincipled action. Doing nothing when they call is "we must do something" when no one can think of any action that would produce positive results is moral cowardice. We should help when we can but that means doing nothing when there is nothing to be done. “Our true nationality is mankind.” ― H.G. Wells

napalm deathSeptember 2nd 2013.

What is principled about being (a) the cowardly lickspittle to the biggest playground bully in the world? Then (b) once the 11th September attacks took place and the angry bully was going to kill someone, anyone, out of a simple-minded reaction for revenge, encouraging the US to settle an old score by destroying Iraq rather than attacking the country of the actual terrorists, i.e. Saudi Arabia?

THe Sheath of BaghdadSeptember 2nd 2013.

Saddam Hussein was an enemy of Al-Qaeda and look at the mess the Americans and our government(s) have made of Iraq and Libya with all their gung-ho machismo!

John BradleySeptember 3rd 2013.

correct I should have said "Doing nothing when the call is "we must do something" when no one can think of any action that would produce positive results is NOT moral cowardice."

Mike HomfraySeptember 2nd 2013.

Very much looking forward to Esther McVey losing her seat next time

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AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2013.

I'd have some fun trying to find it for her

AnonymousSeptember 2nd 2013.

She is shameful

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