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Redrow and Maghull urge rethink of city's green space rules

Allotments, playing fields and halls of residence eyed for housing in Local Plan 'wish-list'

Written by . Published on September 22nd 2014.

Redrow and Maghull urge rethink of city's green space rules

REDROW, the company chosen to build houses on Sefton Park’s meadowlands, says too much attention has been paid to redeveloping brownfield sites in Liverpool.

And it wants the city council to take a closer look at the city's green areas with a view to releasing “under-utilised open space” for the construction of executive and family homes .

Redrow, founded and run by Garston-born Steve Morgan, made the call in the “Local Plan Submissions” - released today.  Its call was echoed by Persimmon Homes and The Maghull Group which says Liverpool’s green wedge and green space policies are too rigid and need review.

As well as comments from dozens of public and private bodies, individuals and institutions in the 75-page "wish list", the council has published a draft list of sites -suggesting areas which could be used to grow and develop the city over the next 15 years. They include Harthill allotments, Jerico Lane playing fields and Liverpool University's Carnatic and Dale Hall.


The report is the result of a widespread consultation has taken place aimed at identifying areas that could provide the housing, business, industrial units, open space and infrastructure the city needs in future.

Liverpool’s Local Plan - all local planning authorities are legally required to produce one - will set out how new housing and employment demand, estimated at over 40,000 new homes and 300 hectares of land for industrial and commercial use can be delivered by 2028.

The city council will now consider all the responses before publishing a draft Local Plan in summer 2015. That will clearly identify the sites being taken forward.

An independent inspector will hold a public inquiry in 2016/17, and only then will the council will adopt it – if they approve it.

The council received around 330 representations covering 280 sites with a combined area of around 1,000 hectares - less than one percent of the city. A total of 60 of the representations were about protecting existing sites from development or change. 

In its representations, Redrow says there has been too strong a focus on brownfield development in Liverpool.

The company says it is concerned there might not be sufficient available housing land within the city, and the city needs to review its greenbelt and green infrastructure to ensure sufficient land is identified to meet the housing requirement.

“Green infrastructure sites should be reviewed, particularly those in private ownership,” adds Redrow’s submilssion.

“Development should take place across the city to facilitate executive housing – requiring a review of Green Belt, Green Wedge and green space,” it adds, suggesting a 60:40 split between city centre/urban core and outer areas to provide more executive family housing and continue to regenerate urban core.

Green Party leader on the city council Cllr John Coyne says housing densities should be higher than currently planned to reduce the demand for green space to be given up for housing. He also wants the Local Plan to recognise and celebrate the traditional high density Victorian terraced housing.

“We should study the more successful and stable terraced housing communities and understand why they work,” Cllr Coyne added in his submission.

Cllr Malcolm Kennedy, the council’s cabinet member for regeneration, said: “We are a growing city with huge ambitions and the Local Plan will be instrumental in how our city looks, grows and develops in the future.

“The Local Plan is essential for attracting investment for the right uses in the right places.  If developers, investors and businesses don’t understand our aspirations they will go elsewhere, so this is about making sure we are in the best position to help the city prosper.

  “Each site will be fully assessed and analysed and then be subject to independent scrutiny during a planning inquiry to decide whether or not its inclusion will meet the city’s requirements.

The draft list of sites will be discussed at a special meeting of the city council’s Regeneration, Housing and Sustainability Select Committee on 23 September.

Some of the suggested sites for housing and who's suggesting them

Harthill AllotmentsHarthill Allotments

FL Calder College site in Allerton 3.66 hectares (suggested by Liverpool JMU).

Land adjacent to Allerton Priory 13.55 ha (Maghull Group)

Former Lee Manor School, Belle Vale  3.75ha (OTB Concepts)

Score Lane Gardens, Childwall 4.14ha (LCC Physical Assets)

Harthill Allotments/ Harthill Model Railway, Calderstones 3.59ha (LCC Physical Assets)

IM Marsh College, Aigburth 7.87ha (LJMU)

Dale Hall & Carnatic Hall, Mosley Hill 11ha (Liverpool Uni)

Jericho Lane Playing Field, Otterspool  3.65ha (LCC Physical Assets)

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19 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

Well they would say that wouldn't they. Liverpool - aiming to become Europe's biggest housing estate sooner than you think.

RobertSeptember 22nd 2014.

Aren't some of the suburban uni sites going to become surplus to requirements with all the recent and continued city centre planning applications for halls of residence and student apartments? Surely build on those first if at all. Can't say I'm hopeful for Liverpool's green space though on current performance.

AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

"Executive Housing". Has this phrase been given official sactioning by the Mayor's team? I see it a lot these days.

AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

Something stinks about this. The smell of corruption? Has anyone done background checks for back handers?

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AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

Have you, or do you prefer to load the gun for other mugs to fire? Well done

BenSeptember 22nd 2014.

Robert, you are right and that is exactly why the University are building so much student accommodation in the City Centre. It is no coincidence that (if approved and developed for housing) each 'suggester' would benefit massively, financially from the development of these sites. Surely we should be looking at housing and the Local Plan more widely as a mechanism to regenerate and grow the city holistically, especially in areas that currently might be deemed less 'desirable'. To say that there isn't enough brown field land is nonsense, it's just that it isn't generally within areas that developers see as attractive for their 'executive homes'. Building expensive houses in the more affluent areas of the city isn't regeneration, it's profiteering at the expense of the rest of the city and the quality of the urban environment in those areas.

SaladDazeSeptember 22nd 2014.

Oh, good. Redrow can put poor doors on all the parks.

AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

I live in Maghull and i don't these new houses. People live here to get away from the urban decay that Liverpool council and various councils have let it. I don't want to see DSS, immigrants and other riff raff coming a spoiling it for the rest of use. I am fighting against the scum government. I know this sounds very narrow minded, but i don't it to become another Bootle ang Kirkby. I spoke Esterson MP and he said that the upper government can over rule the local council. I can think of dozens of places in live that can be used such as brown sites. They built on the land next the Rolls Royce office staff, which has been empty for years since it been opened. The whole point of Maghull it is a residential area and not an industry area. www.facebook.com/…/256660907869130…

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AnonymousSeptember 23rd 2014.

Do many people there share your delusions? You live there because you can't afford to live in a decent area of Liverpool which probably isn't unrelated to the fact that you are actually uneducated ignorant and bigoted. And you probably couldn't cope with all the culture and diversity.

AnonymousSeptember 22nd 2014.

No one wants to build on Maghull. It's the Maghull group they're talking about. Who in their right mind would want to live in Maghull anyway?

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AnonymousSeptember 23rd 2014.

With all them immigrants

Leon KaySeptember 23rd 2014.

and where do I take my dog for a walk? there is plenty of land here it's called Knowsley ,Netherly ,Dovecot Stockbridge Village ,all oop the north end where no one want to live

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Captain JackSeptember 23rd 2014.

I think you will find those places are to the east of the city centre

Claudia BoultonSeptember 23rd 2014.

Allotments are a vital resource for health and sanity. wherever you build please do not take away allotments - We want more. People need to grow own food NOT GM. Come on Liverpool wake up to 21st century realities. Grow your own!!!

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AnonymousSeptember 23rd 2014.

Don't give them ideas

BenSeptember 23rd 2014.

Exactly Claudia. What is wrong with the huge areas that have either been cleared (e.g. Smithdown Road / Edge Lane) or left to rot (e.g. Granby / Toxteth)?* You don't have to walk far to find a viable brownfield site in any area of the city, so to take away allotments and other green recreation space is short sighted to say the least. *they aren't attractive to major housebuilders because they can't turn over the same profit.

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Dolly BlueSeptember 23rd 2014.

Most, by far, of greenfield sites are in L15,16,17,18,19, Interestingly there has been no social house building in these areas. Isn't it time other areas are given a breather from intensive low cost and social stock.

Slum of ShoeboxesSeptember 24th 2014.

All the council houses in these areas were sold off by the Council, including the tower blocks. Now the developers want to throw up 'affordable homes' that have rooms so small they'd be illegal anywhere else in Europe and used to be here too.

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