Welcome to Liverpool Confidential
Reset Password
The Confidential websites will be undergoing routine updates. This may cause the sites to go offline. We apologise in advance for any inconvenience.

You are here: Liverpool ConfidentialNews & Comment.

Mystery looms large over Tesco

Is it a phone mast? Is it a flagpole? Both - but it shouldn't be there....

Published on August 4th 2010.


Mystery looms large over Tesco

TERRY Leahy may, as a Freeman of Liverpool, have the right to herd a flock of sheep along the street.

But is Sir T aware that planning rules have been flouted by the erection of a disguised mobile phone above one of his Liverpool Tesco stores?

Now City Council Enforcement Officers are investigating the sudden arrival of a mysterious flagpole at the Tesco Metro on the corner of Smithdown Road and Greenbank Road.

But Tesco say they are not responsible for it.Nevermind. Local councillor Jan Clein wants Tesco, the owners of the building or whoever is responsible for it to raise the white flag in surrender by ordering the removal of the mast from the store.

The saga of the Wavertree flagpole started when two of the big phone companies, O2 and Vodafone applied to replace an existing mobile phone mast on the pavement outside the Tesco store with an even bigger shared mast.

Around 60 local residents sent a petition to the council objecting to the new mast, citing health concerns as one of their reasons.

When Cllr Clein went along to examine the site prior to the committee meeting this week, she was astonished to see a very special flagpole had suddenly appeared over the imposing entrance to the store.

“I remember the original application for the Tesco store, when permission for a phone mast disguised as a flagpole was refused,” she said.

“Then a fresh application was made for the flagpole mast and again officers refused it. Despite this refusal the flagpole has now appeared over the store.

“I want to see it removed to deter others from flouting the planning rules. The council said no, and there was no appeal lodged, so it should come down.”

Cllr Clein raised her concerns at a meeting of Liverpool Planning Committee. One of the senior planning officers, Bob Collins, said the council was aware the flagpole had recently been fitted and council enforcement officers were looking into what has happened.

He told the committee : “There is a flagpole antenna which was refused and our enforcement team is investigating it.”


By Larry Neild

Meanwhile, the thing that originally sent Cllr Clein down there, a planning application for a replacement and taller (50ft) phone mast on the pavement outside – was approved.

This was despite concerns raised by a number of councillors, including Chair Cllr John McIntosh and Lib Dem Cllr Peter Millea who called for the application to be refused; but on a 5-3 vote consent was given.

Cllr McIntosh said phone masts were a major issue.

“They are everywhere and they (the phone operators) want more and more of them.”

Cllr Anna Rothery said rules in Sweden prevented phone masts from being within 200m of schools and hospitals.

Although government advice says phone masts are well within UK safety margins there is growing concern they could pose health risks.

Recently a resident in Aigburth prevented the installation of a new mast outside Liverpool Cricket Club on Aigburth Road, saying phone masts could have been implicated in his partner’s cancer.

The erection team abandoned the installation but within two weeks the mast was in place.

Like what you see? Enter your email to sign up for our newsletters which are chock-a-block with more great reviews, news, deals and savings.

22 comments so far, continue the conversation, write a comment.

Professor ChucklebuttyAugust 4th 2010.

What about Mexican waves they seem to be around where there are crowds of people without harmful side effects, although the once popular Marcel waves used to make you hair stand on end. Although you would be immune Dig. I am expecting compo claims from The Scouts who were regularly forced to go Riding along on the crestova waves.

TescoedAugust 4th 2010.

Good. It's the worst Tesco I've ever been in, crowded with silly students buying cheap booze and lots of bars of chocolates. Now I have an excuse to avoid it. Thank you kindly LivCon

Ray De AteAugust 4th 2010.

Mike I agree with you about the vast forest of info. I have told people like Mast Sanity they need to make their info more user friendly to give people a taste of the issues, so those interested can delve further. Away from the public gaze there is a massive debate going on among experts and scientists about the dangers or otherwise of mobile phones and phone masts. If the experts can't themselves agree what are we, the great British public expected to do?I think of it this way - it is easier to be in denial about the risks because once we accept there is a danger or even a potential danger of caners or other brain diseases, our lives will change. Mobile phones, despite the potential dangers, will never be banned. All we can do is use them sensibly while the jury is still out.

Sir Frances DrunkAugust 4th 2010.

With this attitude towards masts thank goodness Liverpool planners were not around when we had to defend against the Spanish Armada.

Ron GnumberAugust 4th 2010.

Dig that was the best you ever looked. The real danger with these masts is during freezing weather if you lick them and get stuck. Worse if you get too close when caught short. I always carry a battery hair dryer just in case. I didn't know Ikea did phones let alone which country. Are you sure you didn't buy a toblerone which sounds similar and would explain why you can't get a signal no matter how hard you bang your head on the mast.

DigAugust 4th 2010.

I strongly oppose Sunshine, microwave cooking and people who talk nonsense. What have x ray machines got to do with mobiles?

digital evolutionAugust 4th 2010.

no prizes for spotting the industry posters. in the last four months i have gone from being a very healthy 34 your old who loved microwave technology to a very unwell and visibly ageing 34 year old and hating microwave technology. i have become electrically sensitive, verging on hypersensitive and struggling to lead a normal life or continue to run my business. the ill-health (insomnia, headaches, tinnitus, heart palpitations, spasms) started when i moved house to near a tetra mast. determined to keep my new abode i ignored warnings and tried to tough it out. I've now had to move out to stay with friends and get very unpleasant symptoms if im in range of wi-fi / dect phones / 3G phones / bluetooth. no maybe about it......microwave technologies are potentially very harmful...i am living proof. this is absolutely not a psychological condition.....i have persuaded everyone who has tried to suggest so with the evidence of my experience. i have never been so unwell and am really worried about my future health. its time to wake up people....don't follow me into this nightmare!

Ray De AteAugust 4th 2010.

Mobile Phone masts dangerous? Possibly, likely, almost certainly. So much out there from scientists concerned about the potential risks. They have NOTHING to personally gain, unlike the scientists working as advisors employed or consultants to the phone industry.Check out the website http://www.mastsanity.org for more.here's one of their recent postings:Quadruple Dose of Radiation For All - OFCOM 3G Power Boost - Press Release 15th March 2010 With OFCOM’s Proposed 4 Times Signal Power Boost, the UK Population will be subjected to significantly more damaging microwave radiation – at a time when some other countries are reducing their exposure limits.Vodafone and the other operators have been lobbying OFCOM for a signal boost for their existing 3G masts [2, 3] . This will be an approximate 4-fold increase[1]. In effect this represents 4 times as much microwave radiation over the entire area of the UK with current 3G coverage.“Vodafone has told Ofcom that permitting a higher maximum licensed power would enable it (and other operators) to optimise their networks allowing the flexibility to serve more effectively a wider area and community with better in-building penetration”There is no real need for it, this is purely commercially driven to take on BT and Virgin Media. Particularly considering the advised 'Precautionary Approach' and the accompanying adverse health effects from microwave radiation this increase is totally unwarranted and unwelcome.Anybody who is feeling the effects of existing mobile phone masts at existing signal levels in their own homes and offices with multiple symptoms of, for example, migraines, insomnia, itchy rashes, nose bleeds through to depression and the onset of cancer will find their symptoms increasing. And for the 3-4% or so of the population who are Electro Sensitive (ES) or Electro Hypersensitive (EHS) their lives will become increasingly unbearable as the places they can go within the UK will effectively disappear over night.Additionally, OFCOM may well be acting illegally in proposing an increase in 3G licensed power without putting the licenses back out to tender.The OFCOM consultation ends this Friday 19th March 2010. We urge all concerned parties to object to OFCOM[5].Mast Sanity will be objecting primarily on grounds of health. There are 1000’s of studies (and this number is ever increasing) pointing to harm from microwave exposure below the UK exposure guidelines. This proposed increase will only make matters much worse.The European Environment Agency are taking the research evidence seriously and are calling for exposures to be reduced citing the Bioinitiative Report[6] (a review of over 2000 published studies)OFCOM is not in a position to consider the health aspect of this increase in exposures. It looks solely at the technical aspects.Why is the UK Health Protection Agency (HPA) not involved in this consultation and why does their advice differ from that of the EU Environment Agency?Mast Sanity calls upon OFCOM to withdraw their proposals for a 3G Signal Power Increase. Further Mast Sanity call upon OFCOM to immediately reduce all Mobile Phone signal levels to outdoor ‘ALARA’ levels (As low as reasonably acceptable) under the ‘Precautionary Principle’, to encourage fixed-line telephony within buildings, encourage investment in fibre optics and passive alternatives such as Visual Light Communications[8] and thus reduce the overall microwave load on the UK Population – NOT increase it. Quadruple Dose of Radiation For All - OFCOM 3G Power Boost - Press Release 15th March 2010 With OFCOM’s Proposed 4 Times Signal Power Boost, the UK Population will be subjected to significantly more damaging microwave radiation – at a time when some other countries are reducing their exposure limits.Vodafone and the other operators have been lobbying OFCOM for a signal boost for their existing 3G masts [2, 3] . This will be an approximate 4-fold increase[1]. In effect this represents 4 times as much microwave radiation over the entire area of the UK with current 3G coverage.“Vodafone has told Ofcom that permitting a higher maximum licensed power would enable it (and other operators) to optimise their networks allowing the flexibility to serve more effectively a wider area and community with better in-building penetration”There is no real need for it, this is purely commercially driven to take on BT and Virgin Media. Particularly considering the advised 'Precautionary Approach' and the accompanying adverse health effects from microwave radiation this increase is totally unwarranted and unwelcome.Anybody who is feeling the effects of existing mobile phone masts at existing signal levels in their own homes and offices with multiple symptoms of, for example, migraines, insomnia, itchy rashes, nose bleeds through to depression and the onset of cancer will find their symptoms increasing. And for the 3-4% or so of the population who are Electro Sensitive (ES) or Electro Hypersensitive (EHS) their lives will become increasingly unbearable as the places they can go within the UK will effectively disappear over night.Additionally, OFCOM may well be acting illegally in proposing an increase in 3G licensed power without putting the licenses back out to tender.The OFCOM consultation ends this Friday 19th March 2010. We urge all concerned parties to object to OFCOM[5].Mast Sanity will be objecting primarily on grounds of health. There are 1000’s of studies (and this number is ever increasing) pointing to harm from microwave exposure below the UK exposure guidelines. This proposed increase will only make matters much worse.The European Environment Agency are taking the research evidence seriously and are calling for exposures to be reduced citing the Bioinitiative Report[6] (a review of over 2000 published studies)OFCOM is not in a position to consider the health aspect of this increase in exposures. It looks solely at the technical aspects.Why is the UK Health Protection Agency (HPA) not involved in this consultation and why does their advice differ from that of the EU Environment Agency?Mast Sanity calls upon OFCOM to withdraw their proposals for a 3G Signal Power Increase. Further Mast Sanity call upon OFCOM to immediately reduce all Mobile Phone signal levels to outdoor ‘ALARA’ levels (As low as reasonably acceptable) under the ‘Precautionary Principle’, to encourage fixed-line telephony within buildings, encourage investment in fibre optics and passive alternatives such as Visual Light Communications[8] and thus reduce the overall microwave load on the UK Population – NOT increase it.

Scouse exileAugust 4th 2010.

Nice to see that NZ. is not the only place plagued be protesters.

MorrisonAugust 4th 2010.

That area went to the dogs years ago.

A. GumbyAugust 4th 2010.

My brain hurts...

Fried BrainAugust 4th 2010.

Microwave radiation obviously impairs people's ability to spell 'metres' properly.

Olaf KrapkokkerAugust 4th 2010.

Nokia is a Finnish company, Mr. broken-nose, the Swedish one is Ericsson.

AnonymousAugust 4th 2010.

Mobile Phone masts? Shouldn't your Mr Laz be round there in a jiffy with that little ray gun of his so we can find out if we are in any danger from this growing forest of masts each giving off radiation.

Alec TromagneticradiationAugust 4th 2010.

Microwaves make your hair and nails fall out and cause cancer.

Mike R O'WaveAugust 4th 2010.

When government official demanded certain documents from the banks, the bankers sent tonnes of documents and terabytes of data knowing that the officials would be so swamped they'd be unlikely to find the information they actually wanted. Ray has just done the just same. Does that enormous copynpaste have any actual science-type evidence that mobile phone masts harm people's health? Or as they say in the Internet: TLDR.

Mike R O'WaveAugust 4th 2010.

So there's a "mass[ive] debate" going on amongst experts? Are the antis using evidence of harm they believe to be caused by mobile phone mast radiation or are they speculating that the radiation is possibly dangerous? At least with asbestos, xrays, tobacco etc there were cases to investigate. Are there any in this debate?

Ray De AteAugust 4th 2010.

Phone masts and mobile phones a health issue? of course they are Mr Mike R O'Wave. Go into any mobile phone shop and ask for a leaflet (they usually keep them out of site) and it will advise mobile phones shouldn't be used by children whilst their brains are still developing. Mobile phone masts emit a level of radiation (you know, related to the stuff they use for X-rays and H-bombs). It's safe insofar as the 'experts' say the level of radiation is within limits set by themselves. What if they are wrong? What I take exception to is people convinced they are not a health issue forcing their views on me. I can avoid cigarette smoke, for example, by choosing to stay clear of places where people smoke. But I cannot avoid phone masts even though, on the balance of probabilities, there is a chance they are hazardous. If a smoke quits ciggies their lungs and their bodies will eventually return to better health. If regular use of a mobile phone, or living too close to a phone masts does trigger brain changes, the die is set. That's why some medics fear there will be an epidemic of brain tumours in a number of years. Even Government experts will not give a guarantee mobile phone and wi-fi technology is 100% safe. They introduce 'get out' clauses just in case. Am I a nutcase because I don't want to risk myself or my family being exposed to a greater risk of brain disease because so many people blindly believe the 'experts'.Look how the tobacco industry argued for years that cigarettes were safe, look as asbestos, even X-Rays were considered to be safe.It shows the experts don't always get it right, and far too often they are proved wrong.OK, we are not going to give up mobile phones - they are hear too stay. But we should be aware of what we are letting ourselves into and at least do what we can to mitigate and protect against potential dangers.I hope those who are scornful of critics keep copies of their ringing endorsements of 'Peace In Our Time' statements and dust them off in a few years when the reality dawns on all of us. Let's hope it's not too late.

Mike R O'WaveAugust 4th 2010.

Dig, I have an estate agent friend whose phone is glued to his ear for hours on end and has been for years. He didn't develop a tumour at the spot. And Ray, there's no asbestos in a mobile phone btw and they don't have built-in x-ray machines yet either. Are you're saying the experts say they believe no harm is done by phone radiation but they're wrong even though there is no evidence whatsoever that they cause harm? With tobacco in particular and asbestos and x-rays there was evidence, it was disputed but it existed and was later proven. The case against phone masts is far less convincing due to the total lack of empirical evidence. As for the leaflets in phone shops, have you seen the signs in filling stations saying not to use mobile phones on the forecourt? There has been nil cases of a phone causing an fire in a filling station (except one case when the counterfeit battery in one in China ignited the handset). The leaflets simply cover the arses of ignorant managers and officials. Do you also oppose Microwave cooking? DAB radio? Satnav? WiFi? Sunshine?

Mike R O'WaveAugust 4th 2010.

What's with this "health issues"? Has anyone, anywhere ever demostrated that masts such as these do in fact cause health impairments? Does the Planning Committee actually look at the evidence for this or do they just take the locals' objections at face value? The only reason it should be taken down is to thwart Tesco, who will be getting rent.

DigAugust 4th 2010.

I was talking about the microwaves that make your dinner warm up.

Concerned PhoneUserAugust 4th 2010.

I wish people would stop saying people like me concerned about phones should keep our mouths shut. No we jolly well won't. Look at this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7E36zGHxRw

To post this comment, you need to login.Please complete your login information.
OR CREATE AN ACCOUNT HERE..
Or you can login using Facebook.

Latest Rants

Anonymous

I agree with the Councillor. His examples really don't go far enough, because of the complexities…

 Read more
Anonymous

Perhaps a "dolmus" system could be used in the city centre, they work quite well for tourists and…

 Read more
Fairminded

Not price related but sad to see that they are doing away with the Citylink bus. This runs around…

 Read more
Anonymous

Thank you Woo

 Read more

Explore The Site

© Mark Garner t/a Confidential Direct 2017

Privacy | Careers | Website by: Planet Code