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Hahnemann Building student flats plan 'too much'

Maghull Group plan will take new Hope Street rental units to 700+

Written by . Published on July 30th 2013.


Hahnemann Building student flats plan 'too much'
 

PLANS to turn Hope Street's historic Hahnemann Building into more than 100 student flats have been attacked by a newly formed neighbourhood group.

The Maghull Group, which owns the Grade II-listed building, had previously won permission to turn the former Hahnemann Homeopathic Hospital into a so-called boutique hotel. It is currently being used as office space.

The developer got the controversial go-ahead in January to build 600 student flats further down on the opposite side of the road.

Hahnemann House Liverpool3And thisMaghull’s latest plans will see the former hospital and the adjoining Georgian house, 58 Hope Street, being transformed. Even the former mortuary is part of the plan, but residents' group Lovecanning hopes it will be over their dead bodies.

Lovecanning’s steering committee, chaired by resident Robin Riley with Dr Emlyn Williams as secretary, is urging neighbours and businesses to lodge objections to Maghull’s scheme. which would tip the total number of new student flats on Hope Street to more than 700.

In a letter canvassing their support, Dr Williams said: “Already this year permission has been granted for an extra 600 student rooms and studios on Hope Street.  Now application is being made to develop another 106 such units of accommodation in the Hahnemann building at 42 Hope Street.”

It went on: “The council agrees that there is need to develop balanced communities and to offer a range of accommodation, businesses and facilities appropriate to the locality. In recent years, however, there has been a veritable tsunami of planning applications by developers keen to provide yet more student accommodation – despite the ready availability of vacant one and two bedroom flats throughout the city centre.”

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Dr Williams pointed out that one of Hope Street's “greatest strengths is the diversity of the activities taking place here and the range of people, ethnic and family groups who live, play, study and work within its boundaries.

“Within the locality, 18th-, 19th-, 20th- and 21st-century buildings and streetscapes comfortably complement one another and the area is frequented by thousands of tourists and visitors as well, of course, by those living, studying and working within it.”

Locals are being called upon to make their feelings known to the council, within the next fortnight, if they feel it is a “development too far”.

Local architects Falconer Chester Hall have designed the scheme for Maghull. In its report to the planning department FCH says Hahnemann Hospital presents “a unique housing opportunity for students in a vibrant, young city’.

There will be a modern looking, four-storey extension at the rear of the building, but FCH stressed internal and external features of the building will be retained.

The scheme is currently open for public comment and will eventually go to the council’s planning committee for a decision.  

Case notes

Hahnemann Homeopathic Hospital.When homeopathy was all the rage

The Hahnemann was designed in ornate Queen Anne revivalist style, with Loire chateau influences, by the celebrated Liverpool architects F & G Holme. Other landmark buildings from the same practice included the Liverpool Conservative Club, which later became the Municipal Annexe in Dale Street, and the County Sessions House in William Brown Street. 

Matron's Room, Hahnemann HospitalOooh: Matron's Room at the
 Hahnemann Hospital
The Hahnemann Hospital was opened in 1887, paid for mainly by local benefactor Sir Henry Tate of Tate & Lyle fame.  It was his gift to the poor people of Liverpool to provide free health treatment. 

The stipulation was all treatment was to follow the like-cures-like principles of similarities, developed by German Samuel Hahnemann, known as homeopathy. 

Despite homeopathy being popular in the 19th and 20th centuries, it has virtually been abandoned by the NHS.

The Hahnemann had wards built to the design principles of Florence Nightingale.  It also had an A&E department.  

The Children's Ward At The HospitalThe children's wardDuring the First World War the hospital was requisitioned by the War Office as an Auxiliary Military Hospital. During the Second World War it became part of the Emergency Medical Service. 

The Hahnemann finally closed as a homeopathic hospital in 1976. Treatment switched to Mossley Hill Hospital and was finally reduced to an out-patient clinic in Old Swan.

 In later years the building formed part of Liverpool John Moores University, with the former wards being used by the Liverpool School of Art and Design. 

See the full planning application here

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Myrtle StreetJuly 30th 2013.

Hasn't the greedy Maghull Group devastated enough of the Hope Street area already?

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John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

They haven't built a single thing yet. So if it is ruined it been like that for years.

Josephine ButlerJuly 30th 2013.

Here comes John Bradley making the hamfisted case for Maghull Group like he did for their pal Joe Anderson building houses on Sefton Park. Maghull might not have built a single thing but it is what they have destroyed in the process of achieving their singular. unimaginative limited vision. Listed buildings? Who cares. Most of Crosby village, no problemo. Just flatten the lot and put some empty promises in their place. Councils in Liverpool and Sefton are dead impressed by rubble, hoardings and back-slapping.

John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

Don't see you and the rest of the The Park Preservation society doing anything except sit on you hand and make no case whatsoever, ham fisted or not.

Myrtle StreetJuly 30th 2013.

How can you say that Braddrs when if was Maghull that destroyed Josephine Butler House? to create - of all things - a car park.

John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

I'd forgot about that, but that is the only thing. The other thing that has gone, without the normal level of agro from the Hope Street Mafia is the Everyman. The Car Park preservation society want to keep it as a car park. I did once suggest to a member of the Mafia widening the pavement by moving the railings wight to the edge of the Quarry and putting some gates in, would make a nice promenade. It was fun watching the panic in their eyes as the where forced to contemplate someone actually suggesting change to their face.

AnonymousJuly 30th 2013.

I for one don't want the likes of John Bradley acting as the guardian to what I do or what I take. If I want to spend money on homeopathy or natural medicine it is my choice. I am more worried about sceptics who want to ban everything except the stuff 'they' approve of. I agree with a previous correspondent. If Mr Bradley doesn't want to take or trust homeopathy, that is his choice. But please leave me to make up my own choice. Just because we don't have BSc's doesn't mean we can't read.

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John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

You obviously cannot read, as no one not even I, have suggested you be forced to stop taking your quack remedies.

AnonymousJuly 30th 2013.

Meanwhile The Magulians are coming.....ought we to be worried or should we welcome them?

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John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

I'd watch the fuckers like a hawk. I don't think that there is anything inherently wrong with the plan.

Myrtle StreetJuly 30th 2013.

Hear hear Bradders! But Maghull has a track record in atrocious vandalism. To allow them near such a splendid building is madness. Never forget that for a developer it is far more profitable to destroy an old building - no matter how valuable - and replace it with some tin and cardboard eyesore that will fall down in twenty years.

Myrtle StreetJuly 30th 2013.

Sadly our elected politicians aren't bright enough to competently look after our prized buildings, and the professionals are too well-paid to be trusted.

John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

Doing nothing is however not an option. If a building remains unused it will eventually fall into disrepair. It is better to have a tin and cardboard building than a car park. The stub that is left on the Butler site hopefully that will go. Myrtle parades days must be numbered will people protest to keep that? The trees outside are a prime example of past mistakes planted to close together and now pulling up the pavement but doing anything about it would cause uproar.

AnonymousJuly 30th 2013.

Have a heart! Myrtle Parade has our only proper shops. Man cannot live on kebabs and pizza alone!

John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

What a Chinese takeaway and Offy? There is enough space in Vine court for those 2. Does need a decent fishmonger and haberdashery thou.

AnonymousJuly 30th 2013.

There used to be grocers' shops, a post office, a solicitor's offices, a bookshop, the Eureka, Carrageen, Shisha; Delta Travel started there. And they were as well as the chippie and the famously rude Beazer.

John BradleyJuly 30th 2013.

What was A.S Law is now an insecurity company. You could loose half of the parade without any loss. Anyone know who owns it?

AH NostalgiaJuly 30th 2013.

I had a BSA back when Myrtle St had a roller rink, Rodney used to have a youth centre. My tonsils are still in the Ear Nose and Throat and some of my teeth are in the Childrens Hospital. In fact the neighbourhood covered every contingency. I feel the area will never again be as balanced as yesteryear.

Fairy NuffJuly 31st 2013.

Stick to the Tiger Balm JB. Don't get it on your genitalia, it plays havoc with your window box.

Absinthe & TurksJuly 31st 2013.

There is generally an increasing impoverishment of our built environment as more and more buildings housing amenities such as shops, pubs, public services, places of worship, health services, professional services, educational institutions, community assets etc. that lend a variety in the urban landscape are being demolished and/or turned into blocks of tiny nasty flats. There is a lot of money to be made by developers by blighting a desirable area by turning it into a mass of bland dormitories.

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John BradleyJuly 31st 2013.

Name them.

AnonymousJuly 31st 2013.

They're all foreign, mostly Irish I believe.

Fairy NuffJuly 31st 2013.

The Russell Group would appear to have acquired most of the City centre. Students do not pay Council tax. Liverpool University has been granted carte blanche when it comes to land grab. They are afforded a status unlike any other industry, yet that is what academia now has become, just another conveyor belt industry. They are currently changing the "goalposts" for 4000 of their employees, to the detriment of most of them.

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John BradleyJuly 31st 2013.

They own viryally nothing compared with what the Cambridge Colleges own of Cambridge. By land grab do you mean buy on the open market?

Fairy NuffJuly 31st 2013.

Walk along the road, past the nursery. The buildings on both sides are the university. You don't have to be clairvoyant to guess what will happen to Archbishop blanche once they depart. The proposed new hospital is also in their plans, they are inextricably linked. They will flog off as much as they can of Greenbank and Carnatic, and your goodself will find that you have thousands of new neighbours. you could always move to Cherry Hinton, you'll like it there.

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John BradleyJuly 31st 2013.

I went to Cherry Hinton once there was a folk festival on, so I left. They have already said they aren't selling of Greenback. It is a University Hospital. Not sure about carnatic. There is no evidence from Arch Bishop Blanche though I did go to the Liverpool Chess Congress in 1975 the next time I went was an OU course in 2010 so perhaps it is a gentle slide. So that's just the Vets and Nursery which amounts to possibly the smallest land grab in history. If thousands of people move in then that is great, I live in the city centre, it is what I expect.

Fairy NuffAugust 1st 2013.

The Russell GROUP is comprised of many UNI'S. All with their finger in the pie. They have a pedigree going back some years, a history that has questionable motives. they're known to have upset more than the implacable academics of this City. Carnatic currently has two halls Dale and Rankin unoccupied, the word on the hill is that Dale has been sold, and is being leased back to the Uni for a year. Rankin is undergoing a refurb after lying empty for a year..........1975.....Paddington Comp......Folk festival......there's non so queer as folk. must go I've got morris dancing tonight.

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John BradleyAugust 1st 2013.

The Russel Group may piss off some of the people some of the time but not all of the people, all of the time. It does seem to be any form of change which upsets you.

Paul WardAugust 2nd 2013.

Never forget www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/…/what-developer-said-chief-critic-3488732… The Maghull Group is blighting Liverpool and surrounding towns. Let them finish a few developments on longstanding holes in the ground before they wreck other areas.

SaladDazeAugust 2nd 2013.

Things are looking up. We may get the Amazon building on the Alt. Can the slave ships be far off shore? Happy days.

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