Brookside actor gets star role in Mayor Joe's 'greenwatch' group

If there are hundreds of species of birds then it would be full of twitchers. You need to get out to some real countryside to see what a meagre place most of our parks are.

It has got swans,geese,owls,squirrels,bats,ducks,migrating birds to name just a few. Some people dont have the money to take there families to the country side so having this in there door step is a god send!

Get the train to Maghull and walk to Kirkby station. With a saveaway get up to Lydiate around the Scotch piper. Just walk along the canal. Get the bus from Kirkby to the Strand get of at Sefton and walk around a bit. All Zone C

All the places where EFC could build a stadium, in fact

"All Zone C" - I thought that the best things in life were supposed to be free?

All of Zone C is within walking distance, but perhaps you will object to the shoe leather cost.

Not when theres enough brownfield sites in the city!

All this talk of enough brownfield sites in the city. Where is there one big enough to build a 50,000 capacity football stadium with a large car park and surrounding circulating area for fans?

Why do we owe a bunch of multi-millionaires a place to go and kick a ball around? They are rich, they are nothing to do with us, they can sort themselves out.

Very good point Anon. But then Uncle Joe is an Evertonian.

Why are so many our public officials these days so determinedly undignified? There was a time not so long ago when Liverpool was run by people who did not wipe their snot on their sleeves. Now they all look like scallies, speak like barrowboys and care more for their footy allegiences than their professional detachment. Hatton's 'Toytown' legacy?

Down to Phil Redmond and the brooksideisation that produce the scalocracy. But Liverpool's polticos have been second rate since WW2 it is how we got here.

No I'm not but it shows how up to date with the council you are, but class argument.

We're with you Mr Hatton! ! Coal not dole! Etc

Thank You for your kind support>I will see you on the Save our City March coming in the next few weeks.

And don't forget, " Labour "Out In May, spread the word Brother.

Coalition unite and fight, out with Joe.

Don't forget your SWP posters.

Hear hear! Not only will these wastelands not be missed, a denser population attracts more shops and aminities. It's also easier for the developers because the street pattern is already in place as are the drains and sewers for the new properties. Or do developers make a killing out of the taxpayers building those from scratch too?

Liverpool is getting to look like the ruins of Detroit.

Name some of the waste lands.

The whole of the north docks, vast swathes of Smithdown. Kensington, Edge Lane....

April is the cruellest month

All of those have plans in place, with the exception of Edge Lane, which has been grassed over. Parts of the land to the north Kensington have been converted to a Park. So nothing unused in that list.

Grassing-over is not a solution to anything. A patch of grass does not a park make. It merely adds to the air of dereliction, desertion and desperation. You take away the houses, the shops die, they close down and move away. These no-man's land places are obstacles in the landscape to be navigated, they have no value, particularly in a city whose primary economic weakness is chronic depopulation.

Well then you cannot object to Sefton Meadows being developed as that is just grass. More trees should really be added all over these place. It seems you saying only the older green bits are of value, without any explanation of why. Building houses on some of these places will not solve the chronic depopulation it will just move the population from one place to another. The sefton Meadows scheme is in part to attract people who currently like to liver in Cheshire, West Lancs and North Sefton back to the city where they work. If we can get the population growing we should build high and leave the new green islands of green all around the place. The assumption that the shops are going just because of depopulation ignores the fact that high streets everywhere are struggling because of large supper markets and the internet.

Sefton Park Meadows never had shops around it because it has been an established public open space for more than century. It adds to the aesthetic of the area and makes it pleasant and the housing there 'upmarket'. A shitty bit of pointless grass off Mill Street just says to onlookers - decline, depression, neglect, abandonment, bugger-all, you might as well kill yourself.

But it is just a patch of grass, and no it hasn't always been open at one point it was a tree nursery. What about the wildlife on this shitty bit of land, probably far more diverse than in Sefton Meadows. Things change, that's what you don't like.

And what is wrong with a tree nursery (apart from the likelihood of Uncle Joe identifying it as something to seell to developers)? You haven't a clue, obviously you're an incomer. Your arguments are trite crap. You don't engage with points you can't understand. By all means piss on your own chips Bradley, but don't piss on others'.

I've addressed all you point you just don't like the answers. Well if it has been a tree nursery in the past it hasn't always been the grass field it is now. You just don't want change. Oh and BTW I was born in Liverpool as where my parents and most of my grandparent. Some of my earliest memories are Sefton park in the late 60s. You should stop putting forward shallow arguments to try and justify your position and just admit you don't like change and are quiet happy when it happens out of your sight.

Shocking spelling bradders, you been on the chrimbo sherry already? Are you a reporter on the echo perchance?

There are different types of 'change' you oaf. Good change is progress, advancement, regeneration, growth improvement, etc. Bad change is decline, dereliction, collapse, unsustainability, urban blight, stupidity, Bradleyism.

Bradley would kill and eat the goose that laid the golden eggs just to spite everyone else. Dogs in mangers are far more reasonable.

Well Bradders, if the internet is solely responsible for killing off all the shops what was causing the closure of shops in the 1960s, 70s, 80, 90s, the desertion and dilapidation of shops in Kirkby, Cantril Farm, Netherley, Granby Street, Lodge Lane, Wavertree Road etc, before the Internet was invented?

Yes but your scared of any change and call it bad if it affects you. But of course I also mentioned supermarkets so the idea I blamed on a singular entity is a lie, super markets which where coming in, in the 60s and 70s and did for a lot of local shops, as they have done for high streets in areas without depopulation. Rebuilding houses will not do any good unless people move into those houses. Getting the houses in these areas you think shouldn't have parks might be achieved by using the redundant land to add parks.

I hope Uncle Joe is professional about it and charges them top whack - they can easily afford it, the city cannot.

What public money is being spent on developing property for footballers?

John, will you please fuck off and do something else for the rest of the night. For your own sake. Just a thought.

No coward I will not.

Yum yum, rabbit stew!

You MUST NOT eat RABBITS!!!!!!!! It's really cruel. And NASTY!!!